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2019-12-02 23:26:53 - Last edit the 2019-12-30 11:31:06  
Warriors Orochi 4
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Max. Hits SCORE (+)

Ces 4 groupes avec la liste des niveaux ci-après et ce type:
Number Of S Class. SCORE (+) | Time TIME XX:XX:XX (-) | K.O.s SCORE (+)
  /! Explanation at the end.

Story Mode - Easy
Story Mode - Normal
Story Mode - Hard
Story Mode - Chaotic


Chapter 1 - Stage - 01 - Entering a Strange World
Chapter 1 - Stage - 02 - Unfamiliar Enemies
Chapter 1 - Stage - 03 - Malevolent Star

Chapter 2 - Stage - 01 - The Rescue of Takeda
Chapter 2 - Stage - 02 - The Rescue of Uesugi
Chapter 2 - Stage - 03 - The Collapse of Oda's Allied Forces
Chapter 2 - Stage - 04 - Chaos Incarnate
Chapter 2 - Stage - 05 - The Rescue of Liu Bei
Chapter 2 - Stage - 06 - The Lion of Sagami
Chapter 2 - Stage - 07 - Brutal Enemies
Chapter 2 - Stage - 08 - The One-Eyed Dragon and the Genius
Chapter 2 - Stage - 09 - The Fierce Tiger of Jiangdong
Chapter 2 - Stage - 10 - Protecting the Bracelet
Chapter 2 - Stage - 11 - The Young Dragon Obeys the Goddess
Chapter 2 - Stage - 12 - Showdown with the Demon King

Chapter 3 - Stage - 01 - The Gods of Olympus
Chapter 3 - Stage - 02 - The New Sages
Chapter 3 - Stage - 03 - The Mystic Master of Horrors
Chapter 3 - Stage - 04 - The Defense of Honnōji
Chapter 3 - Stage - 05 - An Innocent Candidate for Queen
Chapter 3 - Stage - 06 - Procuring the Bracelet
Chapter 3 - Stage - 07 - The Rescue of Liu Shan
Chapter 3 - Stage - 08 - The Liberation of Zhao Yun

Chapter 4 - Stage - 01 - Hero Rescue
Chapter 4 - Stage - 02 - The One Who Wields the Bracelet
Chapter 4 - Stage - 03 - The Rescue of Perseus
Chapter 4 - Stage - 04 - The Rescue of the Mystic Maiden
Chapter 4 - Stage - 05 - Invasion of Asgard
Chapter 4 - Stage - 06 - The Tactician's True Intentions
Chapter 4 - Stage - 07 - Entrusted with a Plan
Chapter 4 - Stage - 08 - Zeus, King of Olympus
Chapter 4 - Stage - 09 - The God's Pincer Attack
Chapter 4 - Stage - 10 - A Great Shadow
Chapter 4 - Stage - 11 - Azure Rule
Chapter 4 - Stage - 12 - A Promising Generation
Chapter 4 - Stage - 13 - To Challenge Gods
Chapter 4 - Stage - 14 - Showdown with Zeus

Chapter 5 - Stage - 01 - Odin, King of Asgard
Chapter 5 - Stage - 02 - Pursuit of the Demon
Chapter 5 - Stage - 03 - Protecting the Future
Chapter 5 - Stage - 04 - Defense of the Mystic Realm
Chapter 5 - Stage - 05 - Ares, God of War
Chapter 5 - Stage - 06 - The King of Darkness Yearns for Power
Chapter 5 - Stage - 07 - The Ultimate God of Destruction
Chapter 5 - Stage - 08 - Opposing the Gods
Chapter 5 - Stage - 09 - In Search of a Fallen God
Chapter 5 - Stage - 10 - Hope Amidst the Flames
Chapter 5 - Stage - 11 - A Traitorous God
Chapter 5 - Stage - 12 - Orochi, King of Serpents
Chapter 5 - Stage - 13 - Destined to be Destroyed

Side Stories - Stage - 01 - Never Say Die
Side Stories - Stage - 02 - Battle for Provisions
Side Stories - Stage - 03 - A Million Hearts as One
Side Stories - Stage - 04 - Dispelling the Sorcery
Side Stories - Stage - 05 - Family Bonds
Side Stories - Stage - 06 - The Swordsman and the Assassin
Side Stories - Stage - 07 - An Imminent Trap on the Mystic Realm
Side Stories - Stage - 08 - Parent Versus Child
Side Stories - Stage - 09 - Femme Fatale
Side Stories - Stage - 10 - He Who Heard the Voice of the Heavens
Side Stories - Stage - 11 - The Banquet Overseer
Side Stories - Stage - 12 - Nobody Wins a Quarrel
Side Stories - Stage - 13 - Securing Heroes
Side Stories - Stage - 14 - Battle to be the First Spear
Side Stories - Stage - 15 - A Journey of Immaculate Flowers
Side Stories - Stage - 16 - Beautiful Goddess
Side Stories - Stage - 17 - The Greatest Thieves in the Land
Side Stories - Stage - 18 - Reclaiming the Bracelet
Side Stories - Stage - 19 - The Seven Wonders of the Underworld
Side Stories - Stage - 20 - The King of Nanzhong and Family


https://i.redd.it/tmmm61i611z11.jpg"

The game save first the best Rank, so we must follow this and don't allowed a speedrun level to be 1st because in this case, the player will have S for Time but a very bad grade for KO like D, so his global rank is pretty bad (C or B) so that's the solution:

The type for others groupes need 3 criterias in this order to respect perfectly the game ranking system.
Number Of S Class. SCORE (+) | Time TIME XX:XX:XX (-) | K.O.s SCORE (+)

Nb S Rank values : 0, 1 or 2 for a perfect run (1 S Rank is awarded for Time, the other is for KO.) So the best player on VGR must have perfectly done the level, after that the others criteria is used to decided between players who is the best; first with Time and after KO

For me, if the game don't saved in separate charts Time and KO but instead saved the best combination of both values, VGR must follow this! Else it's just senseless category because it's not like that the "best score" system works so your run will never be saved if you play a "normal" way because of the bad global rank.

An easier way to do (maybe in VGR7) is to simply submit both rank for Time and KO as a Letter: A,B,C,D...S BUT in this case all Letter must be linked to a numeric value to allow S to be 1st, A to be 2nd etc... no alpha asc or desc ranking can be done as is.

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2019-12-13 15:01:43  
Hi All, Hi All Musou Players.

Have you any objection to add this game like this ?
I try to follow the game ranking system on VGR to awarded the greatest warriors of the game and not do senseless stages for category for only 1 statistic cause this not like this the game must be played.

Thanks for you feedback.

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2019-12-13 15:23:11 - Last edit the 2019-12-13 15:23:45  
Any comments, even from non Musou-Players ( ) is welcome here.
I'm not sure having the "number of S Class" type is great, since it isn't really written like that in the picture, but I don't really see any other option (the other option I see is having 2 distinct categories for KO and Times). So every opinion is welcomed here.

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2019-12-13 15:44:25 - Last edit the 2019-12-13 15:44:36  
My point is mainly like your comment "since it isn't really written like that in the picture" but for :
-Best Time
-Max KO's

Because the game don't save the record like but
1 - Evaluation
2 - Time
3 - KO

https://www.naguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/orochi-uniq-1.png"

So since we can not have a system S=1,  A=2, B=3 etc... i have this solution maybe it's possible to do this ?

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2019-12-13 15:48:09 - Last edit the 2019-12-13 15:48:23  
Is the rank usefull ?

Can we do a great time with low rank ?

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2019-12-13 15:57:18 - Last edit the 2019-12-13 16:26:33  
Yes it is because you know if you play for Time only or for KO only you will have this:

Time Run Only : Global: C - Time: S - KO: E
KO Run Only : Global: C - Time: E - KO: S

But the best players will have:
Perfect Run : Global: S - Time: S - KO: S
But in each category you can have better time or score but not the 2 in the same time you know.

I want a single ranking as on the game:

Global: S - Time: S - KO: S
Global: A - Time: S - KO: A
Global: A - Time: B - KO: S
Global: B - Time: C - KO: S
Global: C - Time: S - KO: E
Global: C - Time: C - KO: B

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2019-12-30 07:59:22 - Last edit the 2019-12-30 09:55:45  
Hi,

Just a little reminder magicbart approved this on Discord so i just log this information on the topic too for others games admins since UltimD is not fully avaiaible for the moment.

Number Of S Class. SCORE (+) | Time TIME XX:XX:XX (-) | KO's SCORE (+)

Discord log reminder
magicbart 13/12/2019
Donc je valide

Ultim'D 19/12/2019
After christmas :stuck_out_tongue:

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2019-12-30 09:30:46  
Le truc c'est qu'il n'est plus le seul à approuver maintenant.
Il sera ajouté a la réunions du conseil, je n'ai pas envie qu'un ajouteur revienne sur le jeu si ça ne convient pas.
Je sais que dans ton jeu le classement en lettre et les deux autre type de records regroupés est important mais sur VGR on a besoin de chiffre.

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2019-12-30 09:48:32  
VGR on a besoin de chiffre
= Number Of S Class. SCORE (+)

Il faut renseigner le nombre de rang S donc bien des chiffres 0, 1 ou 2

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2019-12-30 10:03:18  

Foxof :

Le truc c'est qu'il n'est plus le seul à approuver maintenant.
Il sera ajouté a la réunions du conseil, je n'ai pas envie qu'un ajouteur revienne sur le jeu si ça ne convient pas.
Je sais que dans ton jeu le classement en lettre et les deux autre type de records regroupés est important mais sur VGR on a besoin de chiffre.


Je suis plutôt favorable à ce que le cas de ce jeu soit discuté au conseil également, histoire d'avoir un avis arrêté sur ce type de cas  

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2019-12-30 10:29:11 - Last edit the 2019-12-30 11:31:22  
@Council
Pour résumer, le jeu ne sauvegarde ni le meilleur temps (seul), ni le meilleur nombre de KO (seul) mais la somme de ces 2 facteurs. Pour chacun des 2 facteurs, un rang est attribué : S,A,B,C,D,E...

Le vrai meilleur score, qui est donc sauvegardé, est la partie la plus rapide MAIS qui contient un nombre conséquent de KO. Chaque niveau a un objectif de temps et de KO qui est utilisé pour l'attributon des rangs. En fonction de ses performances, le joueur reçoit en plus un rang global combinant le rang de temps et le rang de KO. Le vrai meilleur score possible est donc un joueur qui a un rang global S, obtenu uniquement si l'on a reçu le rang S en temps et en KO.

Le jeu sauvegarde donc le ranking dans cette ordre,
1 - Evaluation (Rang Global combinant les 2 facteurs)
2 - Temps (on voit le Rang Temps en plus)
3 - KO (on voit le Rang KO en plus)

https://www.naguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/orochi-uniq-1.png"

L'idéal serait d'avoir une liste déroulante (S=1,A=2,B=3) à minima pour le rang global (évaluation) MAIS je propose une solution utilisant le système actuel de VGR : Le nombre de Rang S obtenu pour le temps et le KO (0, 1 ou 2)

Number Of S Class. SCORE (+) | Time TIME XX:XX:XX (-) | K.O.s SCORE (+)
Je suis l'ordre du jeu à savoir d'abord le temps, puis le KO.

Ainsi, le joueur ayant obtenu le Rang S global renseignera :
2 | XX:XX:XX | XXXX
Les joueurs qui n'auront réussi à avoir le Rang S que pour un critère :
1 | XX:XX:XX | XXXX
Les joueurs qui n'ont pas reçu de Rang S :
0 | XX:XX:XX | XXXX

NB: Voir le reste du topic pour plus d'informations

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