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2019-07-06 00:05:06  
Raiden II - Tous les records - Best Score

The top score on shmups.system11 is 16.7m compared to 46.1m. This game is well documented and all strategies are known, besides Raiden games are among the hardest shmups, part II being the hardest.

I'm 100% sure he cheated.

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2019-07-12 21:55:05  
Could you guys be more reactive on this? There was a precedent on another shmup and he had no proof which raises high doubts on this one.
A record more than twice higher than any other reference and without full video can't be considered seriously.

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2019-07-15 10:58:49  
If you're sure he cheated, you should be able to demonstrate it.
Sorry, but even if Zimer's score is doubtful, we can't follow accusations from a person like you who did not post any score in VGR. We don't know if you played this game and if you really know it, independently of what you read on internet.
As a newcomer, you need to know that the VGR Staff give voluntary help to the site, so it means we can deal topics when we have time. I agree that now we are in holidays, problems should be more easily treated, but it's not so easy. Every help is welcome.
You should probably wait the opinion of narutokyuby, a VGR Staff member who played this game and can probably judge if the Zimer score can be made.
Please be patient.

I personally doubt on Zimer scores on other games that I own. But I think he can found some glitches or repetitive errors in games, like here for Raiden II.
If you think there is other doubtful scores, you can ask for proofs.
For the proof system, video are not mandatory, but we can ask short ones, just to be sure that the member has a high level of playing or knowledge of this game.

Do you want make ask for video proof, to Zimer for this Raiden II game ?

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2019-07-15 19:44:38  
This game has been played in game centers since release and there's no glitch, only skill to get hiscores, as seen on current top score complete video.
Besides he has never EVER shown complete video for any of these very hiscores, even when the scores were deleted. On any forum ranking the first thing he'd be asked is to show complete video, so i'd like to see the full replay to see if his score is legit.

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2019-07-16 10:46:59  
I understand your point of vew.

We should probably ask him video of his skills, either will a new full run (so not on VGR but probably with a link to web video channels), or with a short one were we see that he's able to at least reach and overtake 16,7 millions points.
Even if it's not the VGR policy, I agree that at some point he should demonstrate his skills in another way than with pictures only.

If he's able to make 46,1 million points with skills, it should be not excessive to ask him to go over 16,7M points.
I will contact him and invite to cooperate here.
I hope other admins will join this topic, because I will be busy until September.

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2019-07-16 16:30:51 - Last edit the 2019-07-16 16:38:58  

zephyraz :

we can't follow accusations from a person like you who did not post any score in VGR. We don't know if you played this game and if you really know it, independently of what you read on internet.


Some users thinks that toto64 is someone who checks other sites and compares with other users in other sites like VGR and CS but never play games.

Regarding with score, score was done in 2015 playing in easy difficult (captain) which that forum doesn't mention it and emulators are used.

There are other very popular games like SSBM that have WRs that were proved only by picture (or proof is dead now), like:
* Cruel Melee Samus 46084 KO's
* Cruel Melee Ice Climbers 46565 KO's
* Endless Melee Marth 11130 KO's
* Event 25  3.67 sec.

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2019-07-16 16:53:45  
It should take no time as it was done for Ghost Pilots.

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2019-07-17 22:53:58  
It's really strange that something that takes couple minutes at best takes so long...

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2019-07-18 20:31:54  
Whenever it's time to take action everyone's gone...

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2019-07-19 11:43:37  
Again...

zephyraz :

You should probably wait the opinion of narutokyuby, a VGR Staff member who played this game and can probably judge if the Zimer score can be made.
Please be patient.


In Raiden II, Zimer told me a detail that you probably don't know.
So if you said you're 100% sure he cheated, you should be able to give me this detail.
You can discuss with me with PM if you want, but like I said before, I will be less active next weeks (holidays). So, be patient again, thanks.

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2019-07-19 19:40:14  
All details are here, there's no difference in other loops. Besides how i'm supposed to know what lie he has invented???
Now if your objections are over can you please ask admins to take action.

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2019-07-21 19:25:32  

[Zimer :

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Some users thinks that toto64 is someone who checks other sites and compares with other users in other sites like VGR and CS but never play games.


On Ghost Pilots all you had to do was take a photo from the cheatless Hi-Score Mode Ranking and that is THE DEFINITIVE PROOF YOU CHEATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Moreover his score was reactivated which PROVES 100% COLLUSION BETWEEN ZIMER AND VGR!!!

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2019-07-22 22:46:51  
HE'S A CHEATER COVERED BY VGR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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