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2019-04-13 03:48:48 - Last edit the 2019-12-06 19:49:54  
Edited game list:

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  • zephyraz
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2019-04-16 12:28:30  
This is clearly not acceptable.  

The goal of VGR site is to put a fair competition between us, but with the same conditions of gameplay.
Of course, since we know that there is savestates in WiiU and 3DS (and probably also Wii in certains games, this is another debate to discuss), it means that you can't group any original game with these ones you proposed.
Especially when I see that there is a lot from PC Engine.
You need to be more realistic, and propose eventually to group with only Wii, ONLY IF you are sure that there is no difference with the original games.
(so you need to play or to own them before, I'm almost sure that's not the case now)

This is dangerous for VGR, because this is a kind of test, presupposing that we authorize the actual savestates cheating.  
So I totally disagree the mixing original games with the new emulated ones.
So in other terms:
No, Zimer, you can't cheat again in VGR.  
(Are you crazy, how can you imagine to propose this, with all your past on VGR ?)  
It probably means that you already played old versions with your Wii system, which is not fair.
Because among your 217 games, you have 121 (55%) available on Wii, and 53 (24%) on WiiU...
Which games are concerned by his situation?
Please answer, or I will start (or continue) a cheating topic for this.

Finally, you can propose to add these games you listed, but ONLY in new specific versions, standing apart from the original ones.

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2019-04-17 04:03:55  

zephyraz :

... it means that you can't group any original game with these ones you proposed.
Especially when I see that there is a lot from PC Engine.
You need to be more realistic, and propose eventually to group with only Wii, ONLY IF you are sure that there is no difference with the original games.


I tried to "sepatate" them in past but request was denied.

PMniac did the same for other games in past too and of course I won't play all games that I listed.

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2019-04-17 10:00:01  
Like I said, before mixing games, you need to be sure that there is no differences with original ones.
Of course, you don't need to play or to own all of them. Because we know that most of the time, PS2 and XBOX, or PS3 and X360, or PS4 and XONE have the same versions.
But when we group with PC, or Wii, or in other situations, we need to be vigilant, because there is sometimes specificities (speed, savestates, special bonuses, ...).
If you don't play all these games you proposed, then it's probably better to abstain.

You should make a new updated list with games you played.

Also, please answer to my questions: can you make a second list of games you played on WiiU or 3DS, where there is savestates, and where the games have been grouped with original ones ?
If you want to be faster, tell me which games in your collection you played with original system.

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2019-05-06 13:34:45  

zephyraz :


1) Zimer, you should make a new updated list with only the games you played.

2) Please answer to my questions: can you make a second list of games you played on WiiU or 3DS, where there is savestates, and where the games have been grouped with original ones ?
If you want to be faster, tell me which games in your collection you played with original system.


I wait for the answer of Zimer, please !

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2019-05-06 16:53:34  
I can tell you that all my Game Boy scores were played in 3DS. Many were recorded and uploaded to Youtube.

A lot of games were grouped with original, including games that I don't play and some users requested their additions years ago.

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2019-10-14 14:51:16  
We can't work on this one if Zimer don't send the list asked by zephyraz.

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2019-11-21 11:57:07  

zephyraz :

zephyraz :


1) Zimer, you should make a new updated list with only the games you played.

2) Please answer to my questions: can you make a second list of games you played on WiiU or 3DS, where there is savestates, and where the games have been grouped with original ones ?
If you want to be faster, tell me which games in your collection you played with original system.


I wait for the answer of Zimer, please !


Up !

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2019-12-11 22:54:57 - Last edit the 2019-12-11 22:55:44  
I discussed with Zimer tonight in private.
Every Wii U games of the list contains Save Stats. Same thing for the 3DS ones. So I think we shouldn't add the platform, at least not until V7 with specific rules is active.

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2019-12-12 15:33:37  
Of course we shouldn't mix WiiU and 3DS games with original ones.
This is well known since a long time ago, but nothing has been done to make a check-up for all these games. I hope we will fix this with new Admins of VGR, in 2020.

But independently of the VGR v7 release, Zimer should help us to make the list of games where there is savestates.
This is waiting since 8 months. 
If we have no answer from him, we could (so, maybe) consider that all games played by Zimer are in this situation. And split them in the next future…  This needs to be discussed, in the next 3 months I hope.

So, Zimer, please finally make this list, it is in our common interest.

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