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  • niconoe
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2014-09-24 11:19:44  
Set the limit to 3 (or more) members to unlock a platinium is useless because of the future creation of the game cup ranking. Platiniums will only be availables on medals, and so, for charts. This will be a secondary ranking.
By the way, the main problem about platinium medals is the ability to get huge amount of them because of easy quick games with hugue number of chart. Putting the unlocking limit to 3 will only reduce a few the number of platinium medals members currently have but not significantly.
Finally, the meaning of this platinium medal is "first and no tied", and the 1st ranked member on this ranking is at this place because he's "first and no tied" on more charts than the 2nd ranked, whoever they are and whatever they played.

I will try soon to develop the new game ranking and make it main ranking on the site because always more than 50% members voted for that in the current poll and currently 20% don't care (so we can say 60-70%)
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2014-09-24 13:14:21  
To continue with what nico said, if you look at yicestmoi on forza. Some of them times are amongst the best in the world, and against a top 200 player(out of millions).

It would be unfair on him to lose platinum medals just because those are the only 2 times on the site

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2014-09-24 21:54:54  
The relative performance of a score outside of VGR is fairly irrelevant. VGR is for VGR members competing vs other VGR members.

For every world class Forza score from yicestmoi which is on a chart with only 1 other submission, there is a Flow chart with only 2 submissions. They are both worth exactly the same here.

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2014-09-25 13:41:21  
Okay, so I guess that the poll on each page is about this topic ? It would have been nice to have a link to it, since I'm not sure to understand what it really means. I mean, we already have a medal ranking per game.

http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2014/39/1411645114-ae66a08a642.png"

So I don't understand why we're asking if we're against the creation of an already existing ranking. And I also don't understand why 29% people are against that ranking.  

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2014-09-25 13:47:11  

niconoe :

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Creation of a Top MedalsGame (Gold / Silver / Bronze) instead of the current Top Medals. In the end, both overall rankings (displayed on the homepage) will be Top Points Games and Medals Games.

Rankings will be categorized like this:
- Overall rankings:
- - By games
- - - Points
- - - Medals
- - By records
- - - Points
- - - Medals
- Other rankings:
- - Badge ranking
- - Proofs ranking


A link of it was in one of the latest news  

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2014-09-25 14:01:10  
Je ne vois pas à quoi servirai un nouveau classement médaille. J'aime bien comment c'est représenté. Vous dites que le classement des platines ne sera plus apparent dans les classement généraux, mais va l'être sur notre profil. C'est comme si on revenait au point de départ. Avant, on avait un classement médaille : Or, argent et bronze. Avec le classement des platines, ça devient plus dure pour se hisser dans le top 100. Le fait que nous allons revenir au classement original, ça ne réglera pas plus le problème. Beaucoup seront désavantagés (comme moi) dans un classement or, argent et bronze.

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I do not know what to serve a new medal standings. I like how it is represented. You say that the classification of plates will not be apparent in the overall ranking, but will be on our profile. It is as if we went back to the starting point. Before, we had a medal standings: Gold, silver and bronze. With the classification of turntables, it gets harder to climb into the top 100. The fact that we're going back to the original filing, it does not solve the problem more. Many will be disadvantaged (like me) in a gold ranking, silver and bronze.

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2014-09-25 17:59:55  

OkamiAma77 :

niconoe :

1.
Creation of a Top MedalsGame (Gold / Silver / Bronze) instead of the current Top Medals. In the end, both overall rankings (displayed on the homepage) will be Top Points Games and Medals Games.

Rankings will be categorized like this:
- Overall rankings:
- - By games
- - - Points
- - - Medals
- - By records
- - - Points
- - - Medals
- Other rankings:
- - Badge ranking
- - Proofs ranking


A link of it was in one of the latest news  


I still don't understand the difference between the ranking we have today, and the ranking we'll have soon.  

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2014-09-25 18:36:27 - Last edit the 2014-09-25 18:39:42  
Lucario non plus n'a toujours pas compris.


EXEMPLE :

Je suis 1er (en nombre de pointsRecord) sur le jeu XYZ.
Ça me donne 10 000 pointsRecord, 5000 pointsJeu et j'ai 25 platines sur le jeu.

Ces trois classements (pointsRecord - pointsJeu - médailles) existeront toujours et rien ne changera dessus, j'aurai toujours 10 000 pointsRecord, 5000 pointsJeu et 25 platines.

Par contre j'aurai en plus 1 et 1 seule médaille or (ou trophée/coupe) parce ce que je suis 1er au classement général pointsRecord du jeu.
Le deuxième aura une médaille argent et le troisième une médaille bronze.

C'est un peu un classement badges mais où tous les jeux ont la même valeur : le 1er sur SSBB aura 1 médaille or tout comme le 1er sur SuperJeuPourri 2. Et les personnes classées 2ème et 3ème auront aussi une médaille argent/bronze alors qu'avec les badges ils n'ont rien du tout.

Donc je répète pour Lucario, les médailles Platine/Or/Argent/Bronze actuelles ne changeront pas. Elles seront attribuées sur chaque record. Tandis que les nouvelles médailles seront attribuées par jeu, et seront dans un nouveau classement séparé des autres.

2014-09-25 19:13:47  

niconoe :

To all french people, please, try to speak english for two-laguages topics, or at least, post both versions: 1 french and 1 google translated.
Thanks.

Asep :

Lucario non plus n'a toujours pas compris.


EXEMPLE :

Je suis 1er (en nombre de pointsRecord) sur le jeu XYZ.
Ça me donne 10 000 pointsRecord, 5000 pointsJeu et j'ai 25 platines sur le jeu.

Ces trois classements (pointsRecord - pointsJeu - médailles) existeront toujours et rien ne changera dessus, j'aurai toujours 10 000 pointsRecord, 5000 pointsJeu et 25 platines.

Par contre j'aurai en plus 1 et 1 seule médaille or (ou trophée/coupe) parce ce que je suis 1er au classement général pointsRecord du jeu.
Le deuxième aura une médaille argent et le troisième une médaille bronze.

C'est un peu un classement badges mais où tous les jeux ont la même valeur : le 1er sur SSBB aura 1 médaille or tout comme le 1er sur SuperJeuPourri 2. Et les personnes classées 2ème et 3ème auront aussi une médaille argent/bronze alors qu'avec les badges ils n'ont rien du tout.

Donc je répète pour Lucario, les médailles Platine/Or/Argent/Bronze actuelles ne changeront pas. Elles seront attribuées sur chaque record. Tandis que les nouvelles médailles seront attribuées par jeu, et seront dans un nouveau classement séparé des autres.


niconoe :

To all french people, please, try to speak english for two-laguages topics, or at least, post both versions: 1 french and 1 google translated.
Thanks.

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2014-09-25 23:33:57 - Last edit the 2014-09-25 23:34:40  
Me and English do not mix (pas un bon ménage). Traduction of shit. Ça sera un classement à part par jeu qui auront tous la même la valeur peut importe le nombre de joueurs inscrits. Les mêmes points seront attribué pour la 1re, 2e et 3e place. Ça pourrait être intéressant. Mais, plaira-t-il à la plupart d'entre nous? C'est ce que nous démontre le sondage en ce moment. J'espère juste qu'on voit encore le classement avec les platines sur chaque jeu et la page d'accueil. Ça me donne un "boost" de plus pour performer.

It will be a separate classification for fun that will have all the same value regardless of the number of registered players. The same points will be awarded for the 1st, 2nd and 3rd place. That could be interesting. But will please most of us? That's what the survey shows us right now. I just hope we still see the standings with decks on each game and the home page. It gives me a "boost" of more to perform.

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2014-09-25 23:49:49  

Lucario :

I just hope we still see the standings with decks on each game and the home page. It gives me a "boost" of more to perform.


Medals ranking will still be showed in each game. In the home page, it's the new ranking that will be show.

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2014-09-26 10:59:52  
So will it just be a new ranking sorting all players on the number of Master Badges ? :o

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2014-09-26 11:12:44 - Last edit the 2014-09-26 11:13:49  

NPlay :

So will it just be a new ranking sorting all players on the number of Master Badges ? :o


Yes, it will be.

I asked to (at least) making platinums for this (to avoid all the easy games/games with nobody in the ranking) but it wasn't accepted.

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2014-09-26 19:29:47  
Or we could give these medals/cups/trophies based on the medal ranking of each game, instead of the pointsRecord ranking.

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2014-09-27 13:51:22  

Asep :

Or we could give these medals/cups/trophies based on the medal ranking of each game, instead of the pointsRecord ranking.


This was my thought first but some people only post score where they win platiniums medals and don't post on other chart to avoid giving medals to their contestants... This will, in most of cases after studies on this, advantage peolple who don't post the maximum of records in a game.
This is not (in the admins opinion) fair for all other disadvantaged members because they send all of their scores...

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2014-09-29 10:49:22  
The poll isn't clear enough.. (at least the french version), it should be "d'un classement GENERAL médailles", and a link to this topic would be nice too.

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2017-11-23 00:44:10 - Last edit the 2017-11-23 00:45:16  
I would like to reopen a debate on another side of records: the size of games.
Some games like Guitar Hero or Zuma had thousand of records. Then Flow came with more than 20,000 records. At this point we can ask, where is the limit of the number of records we can add in a game?

I recently asked for a new game, Hexcells Infinite, which is a really fun puzzle game. There's a part of the game where your time is shown at the end of a puzzle. I decided to add only one record for a very simple reason: this game do not have hundreds or thousands of puzzles but 100,000,000 different puzzles, and each one would be valid as a record.
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Those 100,000,000 records are as valid as every Sudoku, Picross, or every other puzzle game. And it would be more records than all the other games reunited. They might also come other games with as much records as this one. I think we need to discuss of what to do with those kind of games, so we can find the best for VGR v7.  

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2017-11-29 20:56:36  
For me no prob until the main ranking is PointsGame !

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