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  • MetalWarrior
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2020-10-23 11:44:26  
https://www.video-games-records.com/micro-machines-v3-time-trial-3-laps-tanks-alot-record-r100532.html

Ok,this just isn't possible :=) isn't it?

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2020-10-23 12:24:06 - Last edit the 2020-10-23 12:26:12  
Concerning this suspicious time, a justified proof ask has been made, and now validated.
Maybe it's a typo error, let's see.
quar has now 15 days to proove it, otherwise it will be deactivated.

I invite him to explain here how he made this (glitch, secret bonus, shortcut ?), because other members made more than 1 min here.
In absence of answer, other proof asks will probably be done, and video proofs can be required.

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2020-10-23 13:42:53 - Last edit the 2020-10-23 13:51:03  
Hi metalwarrior, the gameboy color port of this game was made quite sloppily and the lap checkpoints are easy to glitch. On 90% of the levels it is possible to go from the start line to to the 2nd to last checkpoint and then when you go to the last checkpoint (though on a lot of levels you have to avoid running too close to the track lines as there death points that will respawn you back to your previous checkpoint) it thinks youve done all the lap. It is similar to glitches in Mario Kart Wii but a lot simpler. All fair game by VGR rules. If you checked my 1-lap time for this track you would have seen my time there is 3.00 which x3 makes 9 secs so its not suspicious :p actually i beat that 1lap when going for 3lap attempts but it doesnt save 1lap times when doing 3laps.

As explained before, video proofs are required for 3lap so please dont accept proof requests for 3lap until we are able to link youtube videos. Here is proof of this 3lap https://youtu.be/Ws5Uvm4oT5s

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2020-10-23 16:18:25 - Last edit the 2020-10-23 16:30:22  
Thanks for your quick and clear explanations.
So it's not a cheat, but it's a glitch, and it's legal on VGR.
Another game where there is glitch and where it changes the competition...

Like you said, VGR don't have a video proof system for the moment, we will be obliged to wait the next version 7 (posponed from summer to end of year 2020).
So, exceptionnally, and because of the particular actual situation (VGR tournaments), I accepted your links as proofs.
But remember to put again the right and direct YouTube links, when VGR v7 will be there.

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2020-10-24 23:30:48  
Hmm...well okay then. But still this is quite questionable: basically you are not doing anything wrong but STILL HOWEVER the 2nd best time in Tanks Alot is nr 1 time for me. And I hope you are not sending these "unbeatable,impossible" times to all tracks. It would kill the competition surely

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2020-10-26 09:35:55  
All Glitchs which kill competition or not on many games and records are free to use by all. (except time freezer)
So if you want be 1st you must use it.

A option to explore on next VGR version, is to add new groups with video proof only and mandatory to submit only no glitch record. But adding this on all game with glitch will kill competition on actual game ranking because old players will not submit on them because there are not on VGR anymore.
But maybe add them with, for a first step , an unranking tag to not count for game ranking but can be use for fun to challenge players.

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2020-10-27 07:57:04  
this same thing can be said about many other games on the site. Sonic R, MKSC, SMK, tons of other glitchy games with glitchy tracks .

It all comes down to whether your whole community of the game decides to ban the usage of said glitches or not. I am totally down to having charts with and without the usage of the glitches. I know many who would be happily obliged to compete on one, the other, and even both .

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2020-10-27 14:19:16  

MetalWarrior :

Hmm...well okay then. But still this is quite questionable: basically you are not doing anything wrong but STILL HOWEVER the 2nd best time in Tanks Alot is nr 1 time for me. And I hope you are not sending these "unbeatable,impossible" times to all tracks. It would kill the competition surely

well i had already beaten all the non-shortcut times before discovering the glitch so i would still be nr 1 to you then. it seems nobody had played this game much, you are no.1 on the console version im sure you could beat all these times on your first or second try too. i never said the new glitch times are "unbeatable, impossible" i said the opposite, that they are easy & simple. i havent spent much time, only going through each track finding the checkpoint boundaries and doing a few attempts to get a plat (and revisiting some for 3lap) if you had the game im sure you could beat me easily. yes it changes competition, but that's because there wasnt much competition to begin with. if other players had played longer they would have discovered the glitches too. There are still some tracks that as far as i know cant be glitched (formula X, baguette balance, some others i think)

and i agree with ruby and djon it would make sense to separate shortcut/non-shortcut but then you would have to require video proof and live recording a handheld game is a bit awkward. It's best to use a gameboy player for gamecube or super game boy for SNES and record your telly. Also there are some tracks where it's unclear if it's a shortcut or not, some corners can be cut off that might be called a shortcut then you would need rules for specific tracks like MKSC. It would be easier for everyone just to have it as it is (photo proof for 1lap, soft video proof for 3lap)

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